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hi my name is annalisa ventola and i'm

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the executive director of the

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parapsychological association

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today i'm going to give you an

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introduction to parapsychology over the

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next 30 minutes i hope to give you a

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broad overview of the field as well as

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introducing you to some key concepts

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that you are likely to encounter

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especially if you are attending the ss

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epa connections

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convention

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later this month

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what is parapsychology

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it is the scientific and scholarly study

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of unexplained aspects of human

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experience and that falls along three

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broad categories

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the first of these is extrasensory

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perception

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which includes clairvoyance telepathy

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and precognition clairvoyance mean

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meaning clear seeing

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clearly seeing the present

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telepathy suggests some kind of mind to

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and precognition that is somehow knowing

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the future

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mind matter interactions is our second

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category and that includes psychokinesis

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mental healing and the power of intent

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and finally phenomena suggestive of

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survival of bodily death which is a

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pretty broad category that includes

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reincarnation out of out-of-body

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experiences

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a term that you're going to encounter a

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lot if you get to any depth in this

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field is the term psi

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psi is literally the 23rd alphabet of

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the 23rd letter of the greek alphabet

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and it was chosen as a neutral

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substitute for esp pk or sometimes we

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even use it to substitute for the idea

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of survival

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it can be used as an adjective or a noun

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so we can talk about

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trying to find psi and

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in an experiment or we can talk about

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for instance how an experiment gave us a

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good psi result

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um and psi neither implies that

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anomalous phenomenon are paranormal

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nor does it connote anything about their

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underlying mechanisms and that's what's

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really important about the term

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it can be useful to describe the

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anomalous outcome of a laboratory

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experiment without the researcher being

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required to choose between culturally

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connotated words like clairvoyance

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you might also encounter the term psi

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hitting and that means when a person

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scores a hit more frequently than you

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would expect by chance usually in a

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laboratory experiment and then there's

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psi missing which is a really

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interesting and that is when a

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participant might miss a target more

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frequently than be expected by chance

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both of those are anomalous results

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whether you're hitting the target more

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than you'd expect or missing it more

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than you expect those are there's

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usually some something interesting going

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something is called psi conducive if it

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is favorable to or facilitative of the

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occurrence of size so some people might

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say that like um mild sensory

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deprivation for instance is psi

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about chance guessing

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they might say oh my my experiment

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would be the experimental research which

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is laboratory studies of psy but there's

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multiple ways to approach parapsychology

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because parapsychology itself isn't

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of people who are approaching the topic

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places and so it's a collection of

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research topics that that people bring

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their own expertise to so

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scholarly research also falls into the

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parapsychology so we can have discussion

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of philosophical issues historical

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analyses of large databases that other

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uh and theoretical research and that

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now what is a parapsychologist

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a parapsychologist is a scientist or

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scholar who assumes that unexplained

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aspects of human experience can be

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studied rationally and scientifically

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and this is a very important point not

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everybody thinks that these topics can

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they're just so wholly other that they

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cannot be amenable to scientific

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research some people feel that occult

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topics should remain occult should

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remain hidden um but a parapsychologist

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is somebody who says we can use the

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tools of science to explore this

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existing scientific models of perception

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and memory are already adequate to

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explain those experiences

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or they might think that significant or

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some might say revolutionary expansions

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of the current state of scientific

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knowledge would be required to

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a parapsychologist usually develops

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proficiency in an academic discipline

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like i said earlier it's a

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a lot of times from psychology but also

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parapsychologists also usually publish

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their research in a peer-reviewed

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parapsychologists usually maintain

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some of the major societies are the

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society for scientific exploration

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uh the parapsychological association

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society for psychical research and then

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parapsychology um

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multiple uh places that we can affiliate

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parapsychological association

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for obvious reasons um the pa

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has been around since 1957 where it was

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established in the united states and it

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is affiliated with the american

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association for the advancement of

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science and has been affiliated since

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gives us a seat at the workshop of

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science because the aaas is the largest

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general scientific body uh in the world

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and then an important factor to consider

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is that the pa endorses no ideologies or

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beliefs other than

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the value of rigorous scientific and

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scholarly inquiry

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the mission of the pa

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is to advance parapsychology as a

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to disseminate knowledge of the field

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parapsychology with those of other

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branches of science

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to the end we have a bulletin that we

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it shows you know news of the field but

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topics you know in a way that is

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life-friendly so these are fairly recent

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issues of our minefield bulletin and one

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issue is on physical theories of psy we

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psychological theories of psy

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and one on celebrating diverse math

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methods because like i said there's

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multiple ways to approach the field

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the pa also subsidizes the journal of

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parapsychology which is published by the

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it is a peer-reviewed journal usually

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containing experimental research but not

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widely indexed as well you might be

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surprised to find it even at your local

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and then the pa also has conferences

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an annual convention

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the last in-person conference we had was

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in 2019 in paris the year before that we

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we combined forces with the society for

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scientific exploration which we did in

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we do very often like to actually meet

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alas the global situation

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has us now meeting online this year

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and uh that

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is a combined convention with society

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for scientific exploration that is

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society for scientific exploration

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they are a professional forum for

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presentations criticism and debate

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concerning topics which for various

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reasons are ignored or studied

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inadequately within mainstream science

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and they also like to promote improved

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understanding of these factors that

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unnecessarily limit the scope of

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scientific inquiry such as sociological

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constraints restrictive worldviews

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hidden theoretical assumptions and the

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temptation to convert prevailing theory

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the ssc has a wide variety of topics

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as they're kind of an umbrella

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organization for any kind of scientific

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exploration that doesn't quite have a

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and so in addition to parapsychology

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understood astronomical ideas ufo ology

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sometimes cryptozoology

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kinds of fascinating topics

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and like the pa they also have a lay

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friendly bulletin or a magazine called

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they have a peer review peer-reviewed

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and they also host conventions on an

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and of course the the pa is very pleased

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to be combining with ssc this year

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um to have an event that is going to be

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more than half of the topics of this

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convention convention are going to be

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on parapsychology and so i want to get

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uh into that field

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how we have studied extra extra sensory

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perception over the last

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last few decades at least i'm going to

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start with the rhine era

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roughly the 1930s through the 1960s

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and one of the prevailing

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paradigms

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is something that we call forced choice

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testing

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and that is when a participant has to

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choose the side target among a number of

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fixed alternatives such as a number

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zener cards which we see over here on

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the left playing cards

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or colors

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zener cards were esp testing cards named

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after the perceptual psychologist carl

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zeiner who apparently suggested uh the

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symbols that would be used on those

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cards which you can see here are a

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circle across

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some wavy lines a square and a star

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and most of the research of this era was

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designed to be proof oriented and that

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was designed to determine the degree to

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which sci experiences can be verified

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using current scientific methods

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this type of research got its start

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right around when

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probabilities

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and probability methods were being

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figured out in statistics

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and so we very much see the growth of

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statistics and the growth of

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parapsychology side by side

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in the 1970s to the 1990s one of the

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prevailing research paradigms was the

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gonsfeld experiment and this was a

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process oriented experiment which was

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designed to learn more about the

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psychological physiological and physical

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mechanisms of psy it doesn't mean that

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every ganzfeld experiment was process

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oriented some of them were very much

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proof oriented

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but

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we get the opportunity to look at some

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more things just besides whether psy

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exists or not

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another feature of this arrow is free

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response testing where a participant

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gets to respond freely reporting

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whatever images memories and feelings

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come to mind and usually the targets for

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these type of experiments are not zener

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cards but they could be like art prints

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or video clips um or you know things of

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hopefully an intense and emotional

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reaction

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and

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we also start to look at research

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into altered states which is any mental

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state that is differing from that of a

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normal awakening condition

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um the gondfel the gonzfeld in

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particular is a special type of

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environment or a technique for producing

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it that consisted of a homogeneous

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unpatterned sensory stimulation so you

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can see here in this picture that this

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person

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has a well it's a little fuzzy there's

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half ping ping pong balls over this

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person's eyes there's a red light

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being shot on the face and then

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um

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with the headphones where we got white

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noise and so what that's doing is it's

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kind of creating

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like a

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sort of an unpatterned field that allows

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the brain to sort of reach for

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more interesting stimuli and we hope

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that that stimuli will be the target in

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an experiment

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um

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in the 1990s we started to see more

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researchers looking at unconscious

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science it doesn't mean that they

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stopped doing gonsfeld experiments in

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fact at the upcoming conference

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professor carolyn watts going to tell us

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about how the gunsfield is still useful

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even in the 2020s

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um

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but when we are dealing with this

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well several decades of research

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a couple things come to mind the the

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previous periods we're looking at

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explicit anomalous cognition and that is

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conscious attempts by participants to

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produce a psy effect

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um in the unconscious side we're looking

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more at implicit anomalous cognition and

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these are side effects that are produced

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by effective and cognitive processes

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that are not accessible to conscious

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awareness or control

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and

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a popular

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uh thing to study during this time is

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presentement which is sort of an

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unconscious form of precognition

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and we would see that done both with

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selected stub selected subjects and so

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that would be study participants who are

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chosen because they have particular

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skills or traits such as advanced

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meditators

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or unselected subjects and these are

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study participants who participate in

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studies either by convenience or as a

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representative of the

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in these experiments it's typical for

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there to first be a stimulus and then

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and then we measure how

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the participant responds to it some exam

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examples of stimulus

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or stimuli visual um it could be

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violent erotic or neutral pictures

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sometimes experiments have used light

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flashes as a stimuli

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or auditory stimuli such as neutral and

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unpleasant sounds or startling sounds

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and then to measure response

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these studies can do a number of things

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but the most common would be

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electrodermal activity

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heart rate

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blood volume respiration people dilation

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blink rate eeg

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this is how a typical trial would go for

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the participant they would just feel

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like they're

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they're sitting in a chair and watching

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a slideshow

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because this stuff

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runs automatically and randomly

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and

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so the participant may or may not press

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a button

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uh at which point there's about five

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seconds of a blank screen

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then the computer randomly chose chooses

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a photo which can be you know negative

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positive or neutral

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and then that's followed by 10 seconds

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of blank screen and then repeat

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and so what's been interesting about

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this research paradigm is that this is

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what a typical study result might look

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like

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we can see that um

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oh my mouse works look at that um we can

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see here for the emotional photos

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that

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you know during while looking at the

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photo we kind of we see kind of a flat

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response because

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the

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strong response

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for the calm ones we

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not so much

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you know we just kind of relax a little

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bit and this is you know what we expect

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to see during a slideshow but what's

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really interesting in the presentment

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studies is that before

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uh the calm

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or before the emotional photos we see

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this little teeny bump right here

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we see the the

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the body

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responding

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to a photo that hasn't even been

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selected yet

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and this is really interesting to

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research this is something that has been

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studied pretty exhaustedly over the last

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couple of decades and we'll come back to

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that in a little bit

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um inspired by these presentment

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studies

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and the gonzfeld and other

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currents in parapsychology daryl bem

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published in 2011 a landmark study

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called feeling of the feature

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experimental evidence for anomalous

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retroactive influences on cognition and

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affect and he published it in a high

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impact mainstream psychology journal the

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journal of personality and social

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psychology

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uh

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he's not retired but at the time he was

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a professor at cornell university

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he did

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nine experiments over a thousand

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subjects in 15 years of research

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and out of those nine experiments eight

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of them produced statistically

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significant evidence for precognition

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what he did was he time reversed

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well-established uh psychological

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experiments so that the individual's

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responses were obtained before

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the causal stimulus events would occur

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so for example um

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one of the experiments was a memory test

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and so uh in the typical mainstream

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paradigm what would happen is the

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subject would come in study some words

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and then their memory of those words

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would be tested but in the time reverse

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version

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bem would have people take the test

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first and then

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study the words after

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and he found that sometimes they were

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able to

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to

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know the right words even though they

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what's brilliant about these studies is

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that they were designed to be simple

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statistically and easy to replicate and

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replicate we did

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um and so we're still talking about

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these studies and you're going to see it

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come up at the conference about how

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how what people have done with this

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paradigm whether they're doing a

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straight replication or they're taking

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some aspect of it and looking more

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closely at it we're gonna we're gonna

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hear more about this at the

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convention

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um all right so moving on to mind matter

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um

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there are two

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broad categories of psychokinesis

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and we refer to them as macro pk and

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micro pk

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macro pk is manipulations of visible

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objects at rest

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um

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although in spoon bending sometimes

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they're being handled but in general

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we're talking about the manipulation of

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large objects whereas in micro pk

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we're doing manipulations of invisible

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processes that are in motion and we see

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in the picture here this is a celeron

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device this is an electronic device that

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hooks up to a computer

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and what it does is

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it measures radioactive decay

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macro pk it can be difficult to quantify

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but micro pk is quantifiable

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macro pk is going to require exceptional

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subjects

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but in a micro pk experiment anybody can

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participate

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in macro pk it can be difficult to

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detect to prevent subject fraud

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whereas micro pk is only susceptible to

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some early studies of micro pk

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provided some interesting

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evidence for ordinary volunteers

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mentally affecting things like the fall

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of rolling die which you see in one of

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the pictures here

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or the sequence of numbers that would be

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produced by electronic random number

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generators

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following that there was a long research

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program at the princeton engineering

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anomalies research

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lab

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and that program continued for nearly 30

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years

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uh with individuals

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attempting to influence

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following the closing of that lab

583
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,880
actually even before it closed we we saw

584
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:54,400
as an offshoot to the global

585
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,559
consciousness project

586
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,840
and that is an international

587
00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:59,200
collaboration of scientists and

588
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:01,600
engineers who are using a global network

589
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:04,080
of random event generators around the

590
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,960
world

591
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:06,159
they're testing the claim that there

592
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,840
exists a unified field of human

593
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,120
consciousness

594
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,880
and they look for evidence that thoughts

595
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,120
emotions and perceptions may potentially

596
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,080
cohere in response to major world events

597
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:18,799
producing detectable effects and they do

598
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,159
certainly get some interesting ones

599
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,360
i want to talk for a moment about

600
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,960
meta-analysis though because this is

601
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,240
something that we're going to see come

602
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,799
up a lot also at the conference

603
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,679
um

604
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,080
just real brief meta-analysis

605
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:34,880
is a statistics technique that combines

606
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,880
like studies

607
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,240
and what it does is it allows

608
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:40,640
researchers to identify trends in those

609
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,600
studies

610
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:43,679
because more data creates a possibility

611
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,159
for more patterns to emerge

612
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:48,559
and this is useful when smaller studies

613
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,720
have been found to be contradictory or

614
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:52,559
weak

615
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,720
but it is you know subject to

616
00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,360
um sometimes subject to bias it's a kind

617
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,559
of a subjective enterprise sometimes and

618
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,640
so um

619
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,919
one of the

620
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,360
wonderful things that has happened in

621
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:09,760
the field is that there's been a lot

622
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:12,240
of meta-analyses that have been

623
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,480
published in mainstream journals and so

624
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,640
i have here just a handful

625
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,080
of some fairly current ones and if you

626
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,120
look at the list we got let's see f 1000

627
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,440
research psychological bulletin

628
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,440
frontiers in psychology

629
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:27,360
journal of alternative and complementary

630
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,559
medicine

631
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:30,240
british journal of psychology and

632
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,520
psychological bulletin um meta-analyses

633
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:35,760
are fantastic but they're also kind of a

634
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:39,360
source of debate and so you may see some

635
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:42,400
some people arguing or debating about uh

636
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,679
you know which

637
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,120
should we have included the study and

638
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,159
the analysis or not included that study

639
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,840
and you know in the process of science

640
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,200
sometimes we can get very detailed on

641
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,640
these things so you might see that at

642
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:55,200
the conference

643
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:56,559
finally

644
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,840
the survival of bodily

645
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:01,440
death and i'm just going to quickly

646
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,120
define a few things and then we'll talk

647
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:05,520
about some more slightly more in depth

648
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,240
so

649
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,080
survival phenomenon it includes

650
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,400
reincarnation that's a form of survival

651
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,799
in which the human soul or some aspects

652
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,720
of self is after the death of the body

653
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,640
were born into a new body

654
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:18,880
and this process purported to be

655
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,279
repeated through many lives

656
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:23,120
out of body experiences that's an

657
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,919
experience either spontaneous or induced

658
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,520
and which one's center of consciousness

659
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,440
seems to be in a special location a

660
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,760
spatial location outside of one's

661
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,279
physical body

662
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,360
and then there's near-death experiences

663
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,039
these are experiences undergone by

664
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,720
persons who either seem to be at the

665
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,000
point of death

666
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,320
or who are even formally declared dead

667
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,559
but then recover or who narrowly escape

668
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:47,120
death without being seriously injured

669
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,799
and we find that there's kind of some

670
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:51,039
core experiences around the ndes that

671
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,640
sort of shape that experience and those

672
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,120
include a feeling of indescribable peace

673
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,760
a sense of being out of one's body

674
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:59,760
movement into a dark void or down a

675
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,640
tunnel

676
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,480
seeing a brilliant light and entering

677
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,520
that light

678
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:05,600
panoramic memory

679
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:07,919
such as the life review

680
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,760
and encountering presences

681
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,240
also under the umbrella of survival

682
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:17,039
research we consider hauntings

683
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,799
and uh haunting is a regular occurrence

684
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,880
of anomalous phenomena associated with a

685
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,559
particular locality and usually

686
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,880
attributed to the activities of a

687
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,960
discarnate entity

688
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,559
some of the fun phenomena that we will

689
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:29,919
see at haunted houses include

690
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,279
apparitions object movements cold drafts

691
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,039
sounds of stabs and or voices and

692
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,120
various odors

693
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,640
um more generally though uh is the

694
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:43,440
apparitional experience

695
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:44,320
um

696
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,679
which comes from the latin apparate to

697
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:49,600
show oneself

698
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:51,919
and it is an experience in which there

699
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,480
appears to be present a person animal

700
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:56,720
object or scene who or which is out of

701
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,360
the sensory range of the witness this is

702
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,039
a little bit broader than the idea of a

703
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:03,120
ghost apparitions do not need to happen

704
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,919
in haunted contexts

705
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:08,000
and roughly 10 of the population has

706
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:09,360
seen them

707
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:11,760
except for there's a 1947 study where it

708
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,559
was 14 but that's kind of roughly

709
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,640
uh how that experience is distributed in

710
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:18,240
the population

711
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:20,799
um so at personal experiences are very

712
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,320
interesting and and they can be

713
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,039
stimulated in a laboratory using

714
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:29,520
something we call a psychomantium

715
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,080
which is greek for theater of the mind

716
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,559
um and so this is a

717
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,320
a darkened room

718
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:40,480
with a tilted mirror

719
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,919
and somebody in a relaxed position

720
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,840
pretty much scrying which is mirror

721
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:47,120
gazing

722
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,120
and the setup is designed to induce

723
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,360
apparition-like experiences

724
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,039
it often does

725
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,720
it creates a controlled condition for

726
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,360
stimulating apparitions

727
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,240
and for that reason we see i think we

728
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,240
see at least one study like the upcoming

729
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:04,399
convention we've seen that used as a

730
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,279
tool for that kind of research

731
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,840
poltergeists are

732
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:11,039
tricky

733
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,399
the literal

734
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,200
translation is a poltergeist is a noisy

735
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,960
and mischievous ghost

736
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,279
a spirit capable of making mysterious

737
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,919
noises that's from webster's dictionary

738
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,279
poulter

739
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:25,760
derives from the verb poultron which

740
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:28,480
means rumble or to make noise or bluster

741
00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:31,520
and geist means spirit apparition or

742
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,679
ghost in the field of parapsychology

743
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,200
though we have some other ideas about

744
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,679
what's going on with the poltergeist and

745
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:40,000
some people have suggested that it might

746
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:40,799
be

747
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:43,840
not an actual noisy ghost but a

748
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,440
situation of unconscious psychokinesis

749
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:49,840
in fact the term they use is recurrent

750
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,960
spontaneous psychokinesis

751
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:53,919
and

752
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,159
this came about because investigators

753
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,640
started to notice that moving objects

754
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:00,640
and strange noises seem to focus around

755
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,200
a central person who we would call often

756
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,840
the rspk agent

757
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:08,240
and these

758
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,919
objects and noises will manifest

759
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,480
spontaneously but do not seem to be

760
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:14,480
willfully controlled

761
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,120
by the central person or the rspk agent

762
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:19,919
so it's thought to act on an unconscious

763
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,430
um

764
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,799
so finally i just want to give you a

765
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,760
review overview of where you can find

766
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,760
the various universities laboratories

767
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,640
and societies in the field

768
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,240
this map is a little bit dated but i

769
00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,640
think it still holds true

770
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,799
as you can see here most of the

771
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,399
all these pins represent

772
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,520
again a university research center or

773
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:45,039
laboratory

774
00:29:50,070 --> 00:29:47,200
and a lot of these pins are in europe

775
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:50,080
um and and europe is enjoying a lot of

776
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:52,000
success even at the institutional level

777
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:54,080
and universities as far as you know

778
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:55,039
teaching

779
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,399
and studying parapsychology

780
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,159
if you look to the coasts of north

781
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:02,320
america you'll see a handful

782
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,440
of

783
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:07,200
centers and tiny bit in south america

784
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,039
but only you know elsewhere in the world

785
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,320
there's one in japan one in india one in

786
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:14,799
australia but as you can see things are

787
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,430
so if you're interested in learning

788
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:24,000
about more about the field and you come

789
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:26,000
from a scientific background or you're a

790
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,279
student

791
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:29,840
in the sciences um

792
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,360
i recommend these books here and this is

793
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:35,760
an introduction to

794
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,080
by irwin and want

795
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,799
transcendent mind the rethinking the

796
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,559
science of consciousness was which was

797
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,399
published by the american psychological

798
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,159
association

799
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:48,480
um and then parapsychology a handbook

800
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,960
for the 21st century

801
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,559
it was published only just a few years

802
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:54,960
ago so it's really good up-to-date

803
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,440
summaries on a lot of things that i just

804
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,960
discussed and of course in way more

805
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,200
detail

806
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,360
and then for the general public two

807
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:05,279
books i like um

808
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,720
actually all of dean reading's books are

809
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,559
excellent but this is his most recent

810
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,480
one real magic

811
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:11,679
and then

812
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,320
this book the gift by sally brian

813
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:16,240
feather

814
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,159
it is mostly focused on people's

815
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:20,000
experiences but she organizes it in such

816
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:22,000
a way too that helps us learn a little a

817
00:31:25,029 --> 00:31:23,200
little bit about the field that's

818
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,039
studying it so it gives a little bit

819
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,279
about you know not just the experiences

820
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,240
but also the researchers as well um and

821
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:33,600
it's quite a nice breed

822
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:37,039
um and so that is pretty much it for my

823
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,399
presentation

824
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,200
um i would like to encourage you of

825
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,880
course to come to the conference at the

826
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:44,080
end of the month

827
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,950
but also i would like to encourage you

828
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,880
to become a member of the society for

829
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,440
scientific exploration and or the

830
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:57,840
parapsychological association

831
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,080
both of these organizations have a level

832
00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:02,240
of membership for everybody regardless

833
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,000
of their level of interest in the field

834
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,880
so if you are a professional

835
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:08,880
um there's there's a level of membership

836
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:10,159
for that but if you're just an

837
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,440
interested

838
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,960
reader and you just want to you want to

839
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,120
get the bulletin and stay up to date on

840
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:17,120
the research um there's there's usually

841
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:19,440
some kind of associate or supporting

842
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:22,399
level of membership at each organization

843
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,679
so thank you very much for your

844
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:25,120
attention

845
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,029
okay

846
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:37,440
so that was a nice blast from the past

847
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:40,720
uh last year's talk and um just want to

848
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:43,120
clarify that this year it still is an

849
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:46,480
sscpa event it is still at the same earl

850
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,279
but it is taking place on june 23rd

851
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:50,880
through the 26th

852
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,320
um and that is titled breakthrough 2022

853
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:55,919
and of course we'll be talking about

854
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,080
that throughout the day so at this point

855
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:00,399
i i would like to take your questions uh

856
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:02,880
if you have any um please make use of

857
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:05,679
the q and a box

858
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,080
at the top and um

859
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:10,559
if you are a pa or ssc member and

860
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,399
somebody i know you're invited to raise

861
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,120
your hand uh just keep in mind that this

862
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:17,760
is being live streamed uh and that

863
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:20,799
function will put you on stage so

864
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,440
uh i'm going to continue to run my mouth

865
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:25,039
and kill some time until i see a

866
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:26,240
question

867
00:33:31,029 --> 00:33:28,960
um so rex stratton

868
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,039
asks is it possible to get a copy of

869
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:33,600
your presentation or at least of a list

870
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,559
of the material to read um the this

871
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:38,640
presentation will be on

872
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,519
uh either or both of the pa and sse

873
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:44,240
youtube channels within the week

874
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,080
um in fact it's being live streamed

875
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,760
right there so probably an hour from now

876
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:48,720
you'll have

877
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:52,480
access to this presentation um i i don't

878
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,159
know if you're asking for slides but if

879
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:56,880
you want slides you can email me at

880
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,679
analisa parasite.org

881
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:01,760
and i will be happy to present those to

882
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:13,909
uh let's see is there anybody else

883
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:20,069
i'm gonna say going once

884
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:23,750
going twice oh here we go

885
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,440
can you talk about the relationship of

886
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:29,040
the pa

887
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,720
and skeptic society now i will say i

888
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:34,960
don't know which particular skeptic

889
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,159
society

890
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:38,159
uh you are referring to

891
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,919
um however it is in our

892
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:44,159
definition that we do not

893
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:45,200
uh

894
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:48,000
promote any particular belief or

895
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,280
ideology

896
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,079
other than the value of rigorous

897
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,639
scientific scholar scientific study and

898
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:56,320
scholarship

899
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:57,520
and

900
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:00,960
membership in our association is open to

901
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,839
skeptics and indeed we do

902
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,320
occasionally see some even career

903
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:08,720
skeptics among our membership

904
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:11,440
um so that's that's about all i can

905
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,119
answer to that

906
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,839
i see another question

907
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:17,680
where can we find

908
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,000
resources about university-based

909
00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:22,400
education for parapsychology and edge

910
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:23,839
science

911
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,680
at the pa website there is a link

912
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,359
literally called university-based

913
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:32,400
educational resources and it lists all

914
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,200
of

915
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,079
the it's a listing by country

916
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:37,920
and it lists all of the available

917
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,480
courses or

918
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,200
potential mentors or personnel that

919
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:45,599
could help guide you through

920
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,520
a phd on a parapsychological topic or

921
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:52,240
there's also some links to courses such

922
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:53,200
as

923
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:54,240
the

924
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,119
intro to parapsychology

925
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,119
course at the university of edinburgh

926
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:01,760
the customer parapsychology unit

927
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:05,599
and i'm going to ask that ramsez perhaps

928
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:08,720
paste a link in the chat to that

929
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:21,990
uh let's see

930
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,750
would you please post the titles and

931
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,359
authors of the books you suggested

932
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,839
someplace where we can find them later

933
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:29,520
sure i can do that i'll make a note of

934
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:41,990
anybody else have a question for me

935
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,470
john crewth is asking

936
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:46,160
uh what made you want to study

937
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:49,760
parapsychology and oh boy

938
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:52,160
that's a complicated one um

939
00:37:02,230 --> 00:36:52,839
i

940
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:02,240
the church and

941
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,680
i had a crisis of faith very young 17 18

942
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:07,200
years old

943
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,400
and that was actually kind of difficult

944
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,240
because i was employed by the church to

945
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,320
lead musical groups

946
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,079
and um

947
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,240
and that kind of questioning that crisis

948
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,920
of faith uh

949
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,680
led me into two directions one i ended

950
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,960
up getting a minor in comparative

951
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,560
religions so i started looking at all

952
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,480
religious beliefs

953
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,400
and as i did that i started to become

954
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,480
interested in

955
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,800
ideas of knowledge and power and

956
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,160
especially

957
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:35,119
the seeming divide between science and

958
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,480
religion

959
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,599
and i saw parapsychology as being an

960
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:42,000
interesting intersection

961
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,599
between the two uh and as i got

962
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:47,599
looked more into the field the the more

963
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,720
i sort of felt the calling to make that

964
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,760
research

965
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,200
better available

966
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:55,359
and more accessible to people because it

967
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,240
was kind of a mystery to me why all of

968
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:00,480
this really rigorous research

969
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,359
was

970
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,400
more or less publicly unknown

971
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,480
and i think i found

972
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,760
i thought i saw a raised hand for a

973
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,560
moment

974
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,560
um hopefully that answers your question

975
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,560
john i look forward to seeing you later

976
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:14,320
on today because john will be giving a

977
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:15,680
talk

978
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,910
all right i've got time for one more

979
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,560
question if it pops up

980
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:27,200
um otherwise

981
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:33,349
answered

982
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,800
okay well i'm going to go ahead and end

983
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,960
the session and then we're going to make

984
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,040
way for um

985
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,320
christine simmons moore's talk on esp